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Patrick Flores, Part II... Green Beret?

Today we revisit Patrick Joseph Flores. 👉 Click here for Pat's phone confession.👈 The reason we are doing him again is he's back on social media under the alias's of Atticus Howard and Lucius Montana. LMAO

He originally came under our radar a few years ago when Someone sent us a picture of 3 guys at some type of gathering. 
We messaged him and he quickly removed the picture from his wall. We had other cases going at the time and somehow Pat the fell through the cracks.

At the bottom of the picture section, you might see a red bar. Click that and many more pictures appear.

Fast forward 2 years and he was commenting in our Guardians forum on Facebook about other frauds. It seems some of what he said wasn't adding up and he was called out by a legit Green Beret, with him replying that we vetted him years ago, in a since removed comment... that was not the case. 

We messaged him and he indeed claimed to be an SF qualified officer. He said he didn’t go through Robin Sage or Phase 4 and 5 but was still SFQ’d. He also continued to claim he was a Ranger He even gave an exact Ranger class of 4-79. We reached out to RTB  and they quickly confirmed what we thought. Patrick Flores was NOT a Ranger either. They checked that class, every other class in 1979, 78, and 80. Nobody by the name of Patrick Joseph Flores graduated Ranger school.

Concerning his SF Claims if you don’t complete the Q-course, you aren’t SF. Problem 2, back in the timeframe he claimed to have done the course, it was only 3 Phases. Anybody that went through the course would know that. When this was pointed out, Patrick eventually came clean and sent an apology email to us.

Before the email came, his story got real strange and so far fetch.  he was trying to claim he was a Jason Borne type individual

He replied with the NSA erased his military history (spit) because he was doing stuff he can’t talk about. His exact words were:
I'm going to tell you something I have never told anyone on FB. In 1984, I was an 03. I was recruited by a government agency (which shall remain Un-said). I was sent to A Co., 3rd Bn., 1st Special Warfare Training Group for CAO training. Upon completion I was reassigned to the National Security Advisor's Team, headed by Robert McFarlane, the NSA to President Reagan. I no longer reported to anyone in the United States Army...not the 7th Group, not any military-related entity. NSA completely erased any history of my life prior to heading off to San Salvador where I worked in concert with Lt. Colonel Staben, and  President Duarte. I saved my commissioning and some of my certificates and of course, military pictures just so I can remember who and what I once was.
I spent the rest of my GS life in the intelligence community in operations. I had nothing to do with anyone from my old units nor did I join any associations. Only a select few knew me before I left the army. I just joined FB two years ago and in my profile I do not mention any special training or not too much of anything else. I should have never come out from the cold. For not mentioning anything... He sure mentions a lot and wears a lot on his hats and shirts

So, We posted him in Guardians and at this point he  claimed that his name was fake, his pictures were fake, he can’t talk about it, yet we confirmed he was indeed Pat Flores through people that used to work with him, relatives of his , and a legit Green Beret that had meet him while this was going on.

It seems he wasn’t able to convince people he was really a Jason Borne type dude , and finally shut his account down only to reemerge under the fake ones mentioned earlier. Those were also confirmed by one of his relatives.

He claims:

Combat Inf Badge, False

11 Bravo, False

Captain, False

CAO, False

NSA, False

Serving in San Salvador w/ NSA, False

The NSA "Erased his Life" False

Airborne, False

Master Parachutist Badge, False

Ranger Tab, False

Serving in Ranger Battalion, False

Special Forces Tab, False

Serving in a Special Forces unit, False

Patrick Joseph Flores spent a total of 106 days in the Srvice. His records are posted in the picture section.

He'll now be added yet again to our Guardians of the Green Beret Hall of Zeroes

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Tom Kelly:

The type of individual who embellishes his service record for what reason. profit, glory, importance ??? They probably do not think anyone will find out the truth.

Charles:

Are comments active?

CrossfitBilly:

I just wanted to say thank you for having the resources to check out these tools and the restraint to not lose it when you confront these folks. If you ever need help, let me know. I am a retired 1st Group guy with some time on my hands.

Charles:

Who made the labels for the shadow box of military awards and decorations? Him?

There are some obvious errors (and not only the fact that the SF shoulder patch is missing the Airborne Tab and is upside down).

For example, The shoulder sleeve insignia of the 101st Airborne Division (the "Screaming Eagle") is labeled as "Airborne Army Ranger patch."

But notice there is a mix of insignia in which he actually affirms the information GOTGB recovered through a FOIA request:

1 - The enlisted insignia is that of Air Defense Artillery, (the brass disk of crossed cannon with a missile superimposed) that enlisted branch insignia matches military records that he entered Hawk Missile Crewman training at Ft. Bliss, TX (but apparently failed the course, because he was reclassified as a wheel vehicle driver).

2 - He appears to have added the bar for the U.S. Army Driver and Mechanics badge for [DRIVER-W] to an Expert Marksmanship Badge!? The bar is probably authorized, as he was in fact a wheeled vehicle driver per service records. But the bar does not belong on a weapons qualification badge.

3 - The patch labeled "White Sands Missile Range" is actually that of the Air Defense Artillery Center and School, originally at Ft. Bliss, TX but relocated to Ft. Sill, OK in 2009.

4 - The small brass eagle insignia, labeled as "U.S. Army Pin" is actually the reduced size hat insignia for a female officer (1 5/8" tall, vs. the male officer hat insignia that is 2 3/8" tall).

And so on. Where did the shadow box picture come from?

Jonathanussf:

I put up with this sociopath in the SF Safe House, his constant need for attention was irritating at the least. I left the room due to his penetrating posts. I am not surprised to see he was a fake, Thx Guardians...

Stacey1ross :

We spent almost 2 years under the leadership of this man. We put our complete trust in him and now here we are. We are hurt and angered by this.

wbigtummy:

As of February 2019, David Shaffer was expelled from Minnesota Freemasonry and the Shriners because of this conduct.

Survivor:

It's been just over 12 years since he went to jail (then prison) for what he did to me. I'm still haunted by it all every day. He is a monster, true evil.

Anonymous :

I really can’t describe the feeling I had when I once again did the periodic check online to see if Gilbert had been arrested yet.I strangely found comfort in the fact that he was not captured and brought back to Florida for his warrants there . I knew he was in Colorado somewhere but I never wanted him to come back to Florida with another slap on the wrist or turning CI to get out of trouble and I feel at danger again , however , I never really felt safe knowing he was out there at all. I was contacted months back by someone asking if I had seen him and making sure I was safe because he stated he was coming back to Florida and was on the run from the FBI I was told . I didn’t sleep for a month well after that. I can’t describe the terror I dealt with being involved with this person , the healing that is still taking place for myself and my children . He is a lifelong con man , he’s very convincing and by the time you realize the truth you are in danger and he’s extremely violent . Being a con man he hatches elaborate ways to tear your life apart , set you up , spread convincing and dangerous lies , he managed to blackmail me for things that he created for me out of fear and the cloud of abuse and threats from him for so long . I tried many agencies to help me no one believed me or did anything about him . He would re enter my home for a year telling lies and slandering me across the internet social media , with people even threatening me because they believed him he was so convincing . I slept with baseball bats and knives for years because of him. My children are still tormented because of things he did and said and the entire experience . I actually had to leave my job , my home and my children just to get away from him .

He has always lied about being in the military , he had me convinced of the same thing as well as everyone who knew him for a long long time , also lied about being in with Florida motorcycle gangs and would use that as a threat as well , he always stated he was SF and medic , said injured in Afghanistan and that’s why he has seizures , also not true , I found evidence of him lying to women on social media also impersonating a SF years ago , he had gotten pictures of soldiers with beards that looked very much like him and he knew a lot of the lingo and studied it , he also pretended to be a firefighter and ex firefighter to people as well. That was another of his cons . He always wore military type gear and shirts he would buy offline or from people or army navy store etc I actually still have a couple of them around Idk why , maybe to remind me of what I let happen to me and the damage it did so that I never allow that to ever happen to me again. He changed me then in terrible ways and I never could figure out how to get away or out of the situations . I never experienced someone like him - in no fool or naive , I have an experienced life but the extent he will go .... photoshopping pictures , editing fake text conversations etc making false reports to child protection agencies etc etc .... people believe him and he can turn your life upside down between that , setting you up and threats Therof and physical violence . He has also been to prison in Massachusetts or Missouri I believe for weapons and violence against another woman I found out later . He treats his mother and youngest daughter the same way with threats and control and violence , has 3 other children all in different states as well .... he’s mentally disturbed and dangerous and I am hoping they actually keep him for a very long time so my children and I can feel safe .

I’m so happy you guys were diligent and captured him . The alias he was using is someone that I know as well whom was in prison when he started using that alias .

Thank you for flushing him out and catching him . Thank you so much I can’t explain how I felt

Reading all of this , validating things for me in a way because I don’t think a lot of people where I’m from still believed me . His lies seemed too far fetched , details and convincing fake evidence , he had people coming after me thinking I was many many things and done things I had not as a way to intimidate me .

I have a damaged jaw , ptsd and still working to start my life over in every aspect and help my kids overcome the damage that he did to them . His name and face will haunt me probably for life and I’m sorry to the other woman who fell for this because I completely and truly understand how it happens and the web that he weaves . I’m happy no one got physically hurt and I will hope to see him get some serious time .

loweboyz:

Yet another Piece of Shit phony. When will it stop?

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